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- From: spaf@cs.purdue.edu (Gene Spafford)
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- Subject: Changes to USENET Software: History and Sources
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- Date: 26 Apr 93 05:02:59 GMT
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- Archive-name: usenet-software/diff1
- Original from: spaf@purdue (Gene Spafford)
- Comment: edited until 5/93 by spaf@cs.purdue.edu (Gene Spafford)
- Last-change: 25 Apr 1993 by spaf@purdue (Gene Spafford)
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- *** old/software.n Mon Feb 1 00:47:40 1993
- --- ./src/software.n Sun Apr 25 23:15:51 1993
- ***************
- *** 5,7 ****
- Original from: spaf@purdue (Gene Spafford)
- ! Last-change: 31 Jan 1993 by spaf@purdue (Gene Spafford)
-
- --- 5,8 ----
- Original from: spaf@purdue (Gene Spafford)
- ! Comment: edited until 5/93 by spaf@cs.purdue.edu (Gene Spafford)
- ! Last-change: 25 Apr 1993 by spaf@purdue (Gene Spafford)
-
- ***************
- *** 21,22 ****
- --- 22,30 ----
-
- + The material contained in this post is probably not 100% up-to-date.
- + Many of the software packages described in this posting are undergoing
- + constant development, and it is not always possible to know when new
- + releases have been made. Should you discover that information in this
- + post has been superseded by a new release, please send mail to the
- + poster of this article with the corrected information.
- +
- History
- ***************
- *** 60,65 ****
- by a number of people, including Rick Adams, and is unlikely to be
- ! upgraded further; most new UUCP sites are using C News (see next
- ! paragraph).
-
- ! A new version of news, known as C News, was developed at the
- University of Toronto by Geoff Collyer and Henry Spencer. This
- --- 68,98 ----
- by a number of people, including Rick Adams, and is unlikely to be
- ! upgraded further; most new UUCP sites are using C News or INN (see
- ! next paragraphs).
-
- ! In March 1986 a package was released implementing news transmission,
- ! posting, and reading using the Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP)
- ! (as specified in RFC 977). This protocol allows hosts to exchange
- ! articles via TCP/IP connections rather than using the traditional
- ! uucp. It also permits users to read and post news (using a modified
- ! news user agent) from machines which cannot or choose not to install
- ! the USENET news software. Reading and posting are done using TCP/IP
- ! messages to a server host which does run the USENET software. Sites
- ! which have many workstations like the Sun and SGI, and HP products
- ! find this a convenient way to allow workstation users to read news
- ! without having to store articles on each system. Many of the Usenet
- ! hosts that are also on the Internet exchange news articles using NNTP
- ! because the load impact of NNTP is much lower than uucp (and NNTP
- ! ensures much faster propagation).
- !
- ! NNTP grew out of independent work in 1984-1985 by Brian Kantor at U.
- ! C. San Diego and Phil Lapsley at U. C. Berkeley. NNTP includes
- ! support for System V UNIX with Excelan Ethernet cards and DECNET under
- ! Ultrix. NNTP was developed at U. C. Berkeley by Phil Lapsley with
- ! help from Erik Fair, Steven Grady, and Mike Meyer, among others. The
- ! NNTP package was distributed on the 4.3BSD release tape (although that
- ! was version 1.2a and out-of-date) and is also available from the
- ! various authors, many major hosts, and by anonymous FTP from
- ! lib.tmc.edu, mthvax.cs.miami.edu and ftp.uu.net.
- !
- ! One new version of news, known as C News, was developed at the
- University of Toronto by Geoff Collyer and Henry Spencer. This
- ***************
- *** 71,73 ****
- Winter 1987 Usenix Technical Conference proceedings. The most recent
- ! version of C News is the 2 May 1992 "performance release." C News can
- be obtained from its official archive site, cs.toronto.edu, using FTP.
- --- 104,106 ----
- Winter 1987 Usenix Technical Conference proceedings. The most recent
- ! version of C News is the 20 Feb 1993 "performance release." C News can
- be obtained from its official archive site, cs.toronto.edu, using FTP.
- ***************
- *** 87,89 ****
- ANU-NEWS is news package written by Geoff Huston of Australia for VMS
- ! systems. ANU-NEWS is complete news system that allows reading,
- posting, direct replies, moderated newsgroups, etc. in a fashion
- --- 120,122 ----
- ANU-NEWS is news package written by Geoff Huston of Australia for VMS
- ! systems. ANU-NEWS is a complete news system that allows reading,
- posting, direct replies, moderated newsgroups, etc. in a fashion
- ***************
- *** 105,108 ****
- iraun1.ira.uka.de, info.rz.uni-ulm.de, and ftp.spc.edu (contact Bernd
- ! Onasch <onasch@ira.uka.de> for details).
-
- A port of C News for the Commodore Amiga under AmigaDOS (NOT Unix), is
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- iraun1.ira.uka.de, info.rz.uni-ulm.de, and ftp.spc.edu (contact Bernd
- ! Onasch <uranus@pilhuhn.ka.sub.org> for details).
-
- + Reader NNTP clients for VMS are also available, including VMS/VNEWS
- + (current release 1.4) and an upcoming reader only version of ANU-NEWS.
- + VMS/VNEWS is available via anonymous ftp from arizona.edu (contact
- + jms@arizona.edu for more information) or at any site which archives
- + vmsnet.source. Although the current release of ANU-NEWS is usable as
- + a reader it can be difficult when used with a UNIX server.
- +
- A port of C News for the Commodore Amiga under AmigaDOS (NOT Unix), is
- ***************
- *** 130,132 ****
- full-screen display with direct positioning, but it includes many
- ! other useful features and is very popular with many regular net
- readers. The interface includes reading, discarding, and/or
- --- 170,172 ----
- full-screen display with direct positioning, but it includes many
- ! other useful features and has been very popular with many regular net
- readers. The interface includes reading, discarding, and/or
- ***************
- *** 134,139 ****
- ability of the user to develop customized macros for display and
- ! keyboard interaction. "rn" is currently at release 4.4. It is being
- ! maintained by Stan Barber of the Baylor College of Medicine. "rn" is
- ! not provided with the standard news software release, but is very
- ! widely available because of its popularity. The software can be
- obtained from its official archive site, lib.tmc.edu, using FTP, and
- --- 174,179 ----
- ability of the user to develop customized macros for display and
- ! keyboard interaction. "rn" is currently at release 4.4.3. It is
- ! being maintained by Stan Barber of the Baylor College of Medicine.
- ! "rn" is not provided with the standard news software release, but is
- ! very widely available because of its popularity. The software can be
- obtained from its official archive site, lib.tmc.edu, using FTP, and
- ***************
- *** 142,144 ****
- A variant of "rn" is "trn" by Wayne Davison. Trn adds the ability to
- ! follow "threads of discussions" in newsgroups; its latest version 2.2
- is based on rn 4.4. It uses a Reference-line database to allow the
- --- 182,184 ----
- A variant of "rn" is "trn" by Wayne Davison. Trn adds the ability to
- ! follow "threads of discussions" in newsgroups; its latest version 2.5
- is based on rn 4.4. It uses a Reference-line database to allow the
- ***************
- *** 181,183 ****
- So up to 110% of your news spool is the amount of space news and the
- ! nn database will take.) The current version of nn is 6.4.16. nn can
- be obtained via anonymous FTP from dkuug.dk, uop.uop.edu, or various
- --- 221,223 ----
- So up to 110% of your news spool is the amount of space news and the
- ! nn database will take.) The current version of nn is 6.4.18. nn can
- be obtained via anonymous FTP from dkuug.dk, uop.uop.edu, or various
- ***************
- *** 191,193 ****
- available from Iain Lea (iain%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net). The current
- ! release of tin is 1.1 PL6. Tin is based more on the Notes and tass
- systems than "rn". There is an extensive list of features, including
- --- 231,233 ----
- available from Iain Lea (iain%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net). The current
- ! release of tin is 1.1 PL19. Tin is based more on the Notes and tass
- systems than "rn". There is an extensive list of features, including
- ***************
- *** 195,229 ****
-
- - In March 1986 a package was released implementing news transmission,
- - posting, and reading using the Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP)
- - (as specified in RFC 977). This protocol allows hosts to exchange
- - articles via TCP/IP connections rather than using the traditional
- - uucp. It also permits users to read and post news (using a modified
- - version of "rn" or other user agents) from machines which cannot or
- - choose not to install the USENET news software. Reading and posting
- - are done using TCP/IP messages to a server host which does run the
- - USENET software. Sites which have many workstations like the Sun and
- - Apollo products find this a convenient way to allow workstation users
- - to read news without having to store articles on each system. Many of
- - the Usenet hosts that are also on the Internet exchange news articles
- - using NNTP because the load impact of NNTP is much lower than uucp
- - (and NNTP ensures much faster propagation).
- -
- - NNTP grew out of independent work in 1984-1985 by Brian Kantor at U.
- - C. San Diego and Phil Lapsley at U. C. Berkeley. It is now in
- - release 1.5.11 dated 11 february 1991, with the next planned release
- - at 1.6. NNTP includes support for System V UNIX with Excelan Ethernet
- - cards and DECNET under Ultrix. NNTP was developed at U. C. Berkeley
- - by Phil Lapsley with help from Erik Fair, Steven Grady, and Mike
- - Meyer, among others. The NNTP package is distributed on the 4.3BSD
- - release tape (although that is version 1.2a and out-of-date) and is
- - also available from the various authors, many major hosts, and by
- - anonymous FTP from lib.tmc.edu, mthvax.cs.miami.edu and ftp.uu.net.
- -
- - Reader NNTP clients for VMS are also available, including VMS/VNEWS
- - (current release 1.4) and an upcoming reader only version of ANU-NEWS.
- - VMS/VNEWS is available via anonymous ftp from arizona.edu (contact
- - jms@arizona.edu for more information) or at any site which archives
- - vmsnet.source. Although the current release of ANU-NEWS is usable as
- - a reader it can be difficult when used with a UNIX server.
- -
- An NNTP newsreader for Macintoshs is available called HyperNews. It
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- *** 231,233 ****
- available from many Mac archives, including ftp.apple.com and
- ! sumex-aim.stanford.edu
-
- --- 238,243 ----
- available from many Mac archives, including ftp.apple.com and
- ! sumex-aim.stanford.edu. A newsreader preferred by many Macintosh
- ! users is NewsWatcher, currently maintained by a group headed (defacto)
- ! by j-norstad@nwu.edu (John Norstad). The current version is 1.3d6 and
- ! is available in ftp.acns.nwu.edu:/pub/newswatcher.
-
- ***************
- *** 264,267 ****
-
- ! Details on RN, a newsreader for systems running "Waffle", may be
- ! obtained by sending mail to kafka@desert.hacktic.nl.
-
- --- 274,280 ----
-
- ! Details on several newsreaders for systems running "Waffle" may be
- ! found in the FAQ posted to the comp.bbs.waffle newsgroup on a regular
- ! basis. At least 3 different readers are available, and all can be
- ! obtained via ftp and mailserver from halcyon.com (look in
- ! /pub/waffle/news).
-
- ***************
- *** 300,302 ****
- [129.69.1.12] in the directory
- ! soft/kommunikation/news/beginner/software/vm-cms/*.
-
- --- 313,315 ----
- [129.69.1.12] in the directory
- ! soft/comm/news/beginner/software/vm-cms/*.
-
- ***************
- *** 307,309 ****
- ftp.uni-stuttgart.de under the directory
- ! /soft/kommunikation/news/beginner/software/nnmvs. The current release
- is Version 2 Release 3 Modification Level 1 (in pseudo-IBM parlance).
- --- 320,322 ----
- ftp.uni-stuttgart.de under the directory
- ! /soft/comm/news/beginner/software/nnmvs. The current release
- is Version 2 Release 3 Modification Level 1 (in pseudo-IBM parlance).
- ***************
- *** 313,353 ****
- ------------------------------------------------
- ! Users of these systems may note problems in their interactions with the
- ! Usenet. In particular, postings may be made by "notes" users to
- ! moderated groups but they will not usually propagate throughout the
- ! entire Usenet. The same may happen to users of old B news software.
-
- ! The "notes" software package uses a different internal organization of
- ! articles, and a different interchange format than that of the standard
- ! Usenet software. It was inspired by the notesfiles available in the
- ! PLATO system and was developed independently from the Usenet news.
- ! Eventually, the "notes" network and Usenet were joined via gateways
- ! doing (sometimes imperfect) protocol translation. The interface for
- ! "notes" is similar to "rn" but implements different features, many of
- ! which are dictated by its internal organization. "notes" was written
- ! in 1980-1981 by Ray Essick and Rob Kolstad, (then) grad students at
- ! the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. The first public
- ! release of "notes" was at the January 1982 Usenix conference. The
- ! last release of notes was version 1.7; it is no longer being
- ! actively maintained.
-
- - Users of "notes" or old B news software wishing to post to moderated
- - groups should either mail their submissions to the moderator, as
- - listed in the monthly posting of "List of Moderators" in the group
- - "news.lists", or else they should post from a system running
- - up-to-date news software (i.e., C news or INN). "notes" users may
- - obtain some patches from the comp.sources.unix archives which enable
- - the most recent versions of "notes" to interact with moderated groups
- - properly.
-
- - Users of old B news and "notes" are also not able to take advantage of
- - some other current B news features, such as the "checkgroups" message.
- - "notes" continues to be a "foreign" system and B news versions are
- - considered "obsolete." The various maintainers of the Usenet software
- - have never expressed any commitment to maintain backwards
- - compatibility with "foreign" or obsolete news systems and are unlikely
- - to do so; it is the responsibility of the users to maintain
- - compatibility of such software if they wish to continue to interact
- - with the Usenet.
- -
- -
- Software versions & availability
- --- 326,348 ----
- ------------------------------------------------
- ! Many years ago, there was another distributed "news" system called
- ! "notes". The "notes" software package used a different internal
- ! organization of articles, and a different interchange format than that
- ! of the standard Usenet software. It was inspired by the notesfiles
- ! available in the PLATO system and was developed independently from the
- ! Usenet news. Eventually, the "notes" network and Usenet were joined
- ! via gateways doing (sometimes imperfect) protocol translation.
- ! "notes" was written in 1980-1981 by Ray Essick and Rob Kolstad, (then)
- ! grad students at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. The
- ! first public release of "notes" was at the January 1982 Usenix
- ! conference. The last release of notes was version 1.7; it is no
- ! longer being actively maintained.
-
- ! "B" news software is currently considered obsolete. Unix sites
- ! joining the Usenet should install C news or INN to ensure proper
- ! behavior and good performance. Most old B news software had
- ! compiled-in limits on the number of newsgroups and the number of
- ! articles per newsgroup; the increasing volume of news means that B
- ! news software cannot reliably cope with a moderately-full newsfeed.
-
-
- Software versions & availability
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- munnari kre@munnari.oz.au
- ! osu-cis postmaster@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu
- philabs usenet@philabs.philips.com
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- munnari kre@munnari.oz.au
- ! osu-cis postmaster@cis.ohio-state.edu
- philabs usenet@philabs.philips.com
- ***************
- *** 373,374 ****
- --- 368,370 ----
- watmath usenet@watmath.waterloo.edu
- + uunet info@uunet.uu.net
-
- ***************
- *** 378,379 ****
- --- 374,379 ----
- from their nearest Eunet backbone site.
- +
- + The "archie" service can be used to locate ftp archives containing
- + various news software packages. There are regular postings in the
- + comp.answers newsgroup about how to use the "archie" service.
-
- --
- Gene Spafford
- Software Engineering Research Center & Dept. of Computer Sciences
- Purdue University, W. Lafayette IN 47907-1398
- Internet: spaf@cs.purdue.edu phone: (317) 494-7825
-